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Visit the site below, input your Zip code, and it will tell you which gas stations in your area have the cheapest prices. It's updated every evening. Scroll down from the map to see a listing of gas prices with addresses and brands. This could save you some money on the way to the hardware store.

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Cool.... this is going to be bad...

We are going to look back on this and say... I remember when Gas used to be $3 a gallon. We are headed for a rough ride.

Time to sell your Hummer H2...

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Brock Poling
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duplicate post, sorry.jfrench38841.4237037037

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Brock,

You're quite right. But also sometimes ingenuity is born out of necessity and important advances will hopefully be made limiting our dependence on gas.

For me, at the moment, this link is a good start! Thank you Dennis.

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Yeah... bio diesel. Man that stuff sounds great!!! I am not sure it will (easily) work for our cars, but it could seriously help lower the demand for petro (trucks, busses, ships, etc.)

Brock Poling38841.4355555556

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Here another site of the same nature.

Gas Buddy

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Hehe, interesting. The first three hits (cheapest) were the places where I already buy my gas.

You know, all the biodiesel and ethanol stuff ain't gonna be any cheaper, really. Wanna save money, do like I do and ride a motorcycle everywhere you possibly can (gotta use the wagon for the wood excursions, though). Even my big old 900cc BMW gets over 40mpg. Scooters get 60 or 70 mpg. Course, I realize those of you up in the Great White North might have difficulties during the cooler months, but you can save during the warmer ones. 'Sides, riding is way more fun than driving.


Best,

Michael

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Riding a motorcycle on the highways here in New England is tantamount to suicide.

I'm putting the H1 and H2 both up for sale if anyone's interested. Good idea Brock. Thanks.

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We are going to look back on this and say... I remember when Gas used to be $3 a gallon

, we were saying that 15 years ago.

Premium is $5.55/gal here right now. $3? Haven't seen that in 15 years.

Kwitcherbellyachin'...LanceK38841.912337963

I bought a Honda hybrid in Sep. 2003, and although it meant no more truck, it's virtually paid for itself in gas savings realized over the truck!
I seldom ride the bike, 1982 650 Maxim, since the car gets between 42-48 MPG. (The tax credit was nice too!)

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A tip for those driving pick up trucks. Lower or remove the tailgate, that can improve mileage up to 13%. Tailgates act like an airbrake, creating drag.

Expect to see further developements regarding hybrid's. A group of engineers in southern Calif. modified the batteries on one, and got 100 mpg. These higher gas prices are creating incentives for developing alternatives. Economics 'drive' inovation, and when it becomes profitable, change will come. Ted Turner has invested in ethanol development, what does that say? And guess what country is now 'oil independent'?.....Brazil.

I wonder if anyone has tried to modify a hybrid to 'flex-fuel'? Guess not, no incentive, since there's only about 1000 FF stations, and many are not 'public'.

OK, I'll stop now, that's my 'rant'.

CrowDuck

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Soquel, CA.

When I bought my Lumina LS in 1997, gas was .87 cents a gallon.

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Cool Link, thanks.

We commute 100 miles round trip each day, so we just bought a Honda Fit. Our first new car, and what a cool little car, I love it! We have gone from a car with 22 mpg to one with over 35 mpg on average. 1/2 the monthly car payment is being paid by the gas savings alone.

The times they are a changin'. (Sorry Bob where ever you are.)

Jeff

Im glad that gas prices are going through the roof!
As was stated earlier new technologies must be explored now, eventually we will achieve over unity and then its star trek time baby!
I think that our obsession with the petrol combustion engine's time has definitely passed, we just didnt know it until it affected our pocket book -
Plus an added bonus - its hard to go to war over electricity!
Cheers
Charlie

[QUOTE=Mario] We are going to look back on this and say... I remember when Gas used to be $3 a gallon

, we were saying that 15 years ago.

Premium is $5.55/gal here right now. $3? Haven't seen that in 15 years.

Kwitcherbellyachin'...[/QUOTE]

Just imagine how much you will pay when we see $10 a gallon....    LanceK38841.9126157407

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[QUOTE=charliewood] Plus an added bonus - its hard to go to war over electricity!
Cheers
Charlie[/QUOTE]

Ya but don't you recall the recent (last couple of years, don't recall exactly when) when California had that great blackout? They realy wanted our power right. I meen, we have some very efficient and large hydroelectric stations up here in BC.

Well, at some point, Uncle (insert what ever president is in power) will tell us to give them the electricity or else. What that or else is, I'm not sure, but I bet we see it in our lifetime.

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[QUOTE=jfrench] Brock,

You're quite right. But also sometimes ingenuity is born out of necessity and important advances will hopefully be made limiting our dependence on gas.

For me, at the moment, this link is a good start! Thank you Dennis.[/QUOTE]

Here's an interesting tidbit to think on, as regards incentives for manufacturers to increase fuel economy:

In 1908, the Ford model T had a fuel economy of 25 mpg...the latest figures for 2005 (from the CAFE site) show the average fuel economy of US vehicles to be 27.5 mpg for passenger cars, and 21.6 mpg for the fleet.

To me, those numbers look pretty darned sad considering 98 years in which economy improvements in internal combustion engines could take place, improvements in road surfaces have been made, etc..

Just goes to show you how stagnant things can remain unless acted upon by market forces.

That comparison is not very fair. Look at how much horsepower and do-dads we have on our cars now (air conditioning, etc.)

With respect to not going to war over electricity. 85% of the electricity generated in the world today is done so with fossil fuels. I wouldn't count on not going to war over electricty....

I have never been much of a "green" person. Certainly I don't advocate being irresponsible either, but I always suspect that the science surrounding "green issues" is too politicized to take it very seriously (or at least it is politicized enough to distrust anything being said on either side).

However, this alternative fuel issue is serious. Learn about Hubbert's law and what is happening to global supply of oil (decreasing) and global demand (growing... noticibly faster now that china and india are coming online as industrial nations) and it doesn't take an economics professor to tell you what is going to happen to the price (and consequently our society), or a poly-sci genius to tell you about the strategic importance of oil.

I think this is a great opportunity, but we better get on the stick faster than NOW if we want to avoid a serious crisis.

Personally, I think we are being very foolish for not paying more attention to this problem.
Brock Poling38841.6770833333

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it's time you Old Boys over there joined the "real" unsubsidized world!!

SO, ANYWAYS! I am going to try to get my 12 fret dread fretted today. Hopping to have strings on it soon!!

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Tell me, how much of that horsepower is relevant to the everyday drive? Cars don't need supercharged V8s to move people and Stuff from A to B...sure, they're more fun to drive when they're pumped up full of stuff and moderately useless gadgets, but the fuel economy on many US-made vehicles is frankly frightening. It's not at all surprising you see few to none of the same cars in Europe as you do in the US. Companies, yes, but with distinctly different models.

I am not arguing the point that we NEED all of that stuff, my only point is while gas milage may have only improved a little over the century, the efficiency of the engine has gone up dramatically. We get a lot more muscle out of roughly the same fuel consumption.

You will get no argument from me about our foolish addiction to oil.

I think if we would embrace this problem the economic boom that it would create would make the internet look like a warm up act. It would be huge (and perhaps sustainable....)

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So anyways! How about we chat about something less Volatile, so to speak

Sure would hate to end the week like we started it.

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[QUOTE=Brock Poling] That comparison is not very fair. Look at how much horsepower and do-dads we have on our cars now (air conditioning, etc.)
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Brock,

The comparison was made to point out the fact that market forces over the last century have not led automakers to focus on fuel economy in any meaningful way. As you have stated, the focus has been on providing "horsepower and do-dads".

My point was that consumers are not (through their purchasing habits) forcing the manufacturers to focus on this point. The automakers have little incentive to work to improve economy if their buying public is not demanding it.

as a matter of fact most consummers are demanding MORE horsepower. Thats why the car companies build them. They build what people want to but so they can make a buck. I agree, use the technology that excists to build highly effiecient engines with less horsepower and save fuel. Oh for those of you who pull a 4000K lb trailer with seven wild horses and a couple tones of feed, sure those vehicles need to be available, or you will get dragged away. But the vast majority of Americans do not need 300hp hemis.
By the way, electric cars do NOT save fuel, they just consume a different fuel which as stated above was created with fossil fuels. Thats why hybrids are so tempting, the braking action generates a recharge to the batteries. No need to plug in. Personally, I have been looking at a Honda for a while now and am just about sold. 18mpg jeep liberty, which I needed to pull my boat, see ya later.
I agree with Charliewood, I'm glad gas is going through the roof. Its about time the car companies make a change, and they won't do it is they won't make a buck.
Besides, this kind of thing usually gets a whole bunch of musicianns together and they have a concert to highlight it. Some of you fine craftsman will get your instruments made famous, which has got to make you for quite some time and the guys like me will just get to hear great music..
Mike